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| - | Текст составлен Марком Стенли и сохранён Beejay!\\ | + | Текст составлен Марком Стенли и [[http://freefall.blu3wolf.com/interview.php|сохранён Beejay!]]\\ Версия от 15/09/2013, основано на форматировании Brian-M и makomk\\ Викифицировано [[user>Robot Spike]], перевод [[user>KALDYH]] |
| - | Версия от 15/09/2013, основано на форматировании Brian-M и makomk\\ | + | |
| - | Викифицировано [[user:Robot Spike]], перевод [[user:KALDYH]] | + | |
| === Вопрос от Wirewolf: === | === Вопрос от Wirewolf: === | ||
| - | <note>The only question I can come up with that I can't already imagine an answer to based on what we know of her from the comic would be this: | + | <note>Единственный вопрос, на который я не могу придумать ответ на основе того, что мы знаем о Фло из комикса, будет таким:\\ "Как не-человек, воспитанный людьми, скажите, какой самый большой недостаток вы видите в нас?" |
| - | 'As a non-human who was raised among humans, what do you see as our greatest flaw?' | + | Если она ответит, то спросите ещё:\\ "Как вы думаете, что нам нужно сделать, чтобы избавиться от него?"</note> |
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| - | If she decided to answer, I might follow up with: | + | |
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| - | 'What do you think we might do to address that flaw?'</note> | + | |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
| - | <note tip>It's hard for me to say what is a flaw in humans. Everything works in the right situation. If I must pick something, it would be that humans become afraid too easily, and the urge to "do something!" outruns careful thought. | + | <note tip>Мне затруднительно сказать, что в людях является недостатком. – Если надо выбрать что-то, то это то, что люди легко начинают паниковать, и желание "сделать что-нибудь" опережает разумные мысли. Как избавиться? – Остановитесь и подумайте о ситуации, не действуйте сгоряча.</note> |
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| - | How to address it? Other than changing the brains to secrete more oxytocin, stop and think about the situation and don't let yourself be rushed into making choices.</note> | + | |
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| === Вопрос от Peter da Silva: === | === Вопрос от Peter da Silva: === | ||
| - | <note>Just how do you make those finely formed fricatives with canine lips?</note> | + | <note>А как вы делаете тонко сформированные фрикативные звуки собачьими губами?</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
| - | <note tip>It's ventriloquism. People can do the same thing. Practice talking while smiling and you'll see what I mean. [Big Grin]</note> | + | <note tip>Это чревовещание. Люди могут сделать то же самое. Потренируйся говорить, улыбаясь, и ты поймешь, о чем я. [Большая улыбка]</note> |
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| === Вопрос от Jeep-Eep: === | === Вопрос от Jeep-Eep: === | ||
| - | <note>So many questions, so little time... I'd ask her about her history, what her life had been like I mean her early life and all the way through to Uni and her first job. Or what she thinks the fate of her kind would be. And after she had finished, or said that she didn't have time, I'd bow deeply and thank her for her response.</note> | + | <note>Так много вопросов, так мало времени … Я бы спросил о её истории, о том, какой была её жизнь, я имею в виду её молодость и всю дорогу до Уни (планеты Джина?) и её первой работы. Или что она думает о судьбе её вида? И после того, как она закончит или скажет, что у неё нет времени, я глубоко поклонюсь и поблагодарю её за ответ.</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
| - | <note tip>My early life. I was a lot closer to the ground back then. In some ways it was easier going around on all fours, so many of the good smells are down low. I had a good childhood. Anyone who has had a puppy knows they're not just a pet, they're part of the family. Things did change a bit after I started to talk. Ecosystems Unlimited was… less than pleased to find out their prototypes were no longer clumps of a few cells sitting in a freezer. However, that part of the story must wait for another time if I'm going to keep this short. | + | <note tip>Моя молодость. Я была тогда намного ближе к земле. В некотором смысле, было легче ходить на четвереньках, так много приятных запахов на уровне земли. У меня было хорошее детство. Любой, у кого есть щенок, знает, что он не просто домашнее животное, а часть семьи. Ситуация немного изменилась после того, как я начала говорить. Ecosystems Unlimited была… менее чем довольна, узнав, что их прототипы больше не были клеточными скоплениями, сидящими в морозильной камере. Тем не менее, эта часть истории должна ещё разок подождать, если я собираюсь быть краткой. |
| - | I thought my career path was going to be a helper dog. No hands, on the human I.Q. scale I tested about 80. My owner was able to get me enrolled in a school with disabled students, and I count them among my earliest friends. It's also given me perspective. I may have my have a wet black nose and a tail, but I know humans who would trade places with me in a instant. Richard, one of my dearest friends, has cerebral palsy. I was going to be his helper. When his wheelchair broke down on the way home, that's when I got interested in learning how to fix things. I never wanted him to be stuck waiting in the rain again. It is with some sadness that I wasn't able to follow that path. Things changed again when I turned thirteen. I started to stand on my hind legs (though not very well), my hands developed, and I went through the neural pruning process that humans go through at age five. The only way I can describe it is that things started making sense. I could see how concepts and ideas fit together. I started attending «normal» school. And my owner Scott went off to college. That was the biggest change for me, up to that then we were always there for each other. | + | Я думала, что моей карьерой будет поводырь. Без шуток, по шкале IQ я насчитала около 80. Мой владелец смог записать меня в школу инвалидов, и я считаю их самыми первыми своими друзьями. Это также дало мне перспективу. У меня может быть мокрый черный нос и хвост, но я знаю людей, которые поменяются со мной местами в одно мгновение. Ричард, один из моих самых дорогих друзей, страдает церебральным параличом. Я хотела быть его поводырём. Когда его инвалидная коляска сломалась по дороге домой, я заинтересовалась, как чинить вещи. Я не хотела, чтобы он застревал под дождём. Жаль, я не смогла пойти по этому пути. Всё изменилось, когда мне исполнилось 13. Я начала вставать на задние лапы (хотя и не очень хорошо), мои руки развивались, и я прошла через процесс сокращения нейронов, через который люди проходят в 5 лет. Единственный способ, которым я могу описать это, - вещи начали приобретать смысл. Я могла видеть, как концепции и идеи сочетаются друг с другом. Я начала посещать «нормальную» школу. И мой владелец Скотт ушёл в колледж. Это было самым большим изменением для меня, так как до этого мы всегда были вместе. |
| Things were more challenging at the new school. My balance wasn't very good, and I kept dropping down to all fours. Wearing clothing still a new experience, and it took a while before I found clothes that were comfortable. There were little things, decisions on whether the tail should be covered or exposed. (Most of us feel it's okay to have the tail exposed, though a couple of us use tail sleeves to keep it covered.) I had a lot of catch up to do in the school work, though it came pretty easily. The teachers wanted me to succeed, I think they were proud of their handiwork. I was seen mostly as a person, but I was also an experiment. Rather like if a robot were attending your high school, people would want to see what it was capable of. Socially, well, I got along better with the boys than the girls. I don't know if it was the hunter mindset, or if it were that the social cliques were just too subtle for me. I had girl friends, but most of my friends were male. I didn't date in high school. I was too different. When I was out with friends, it was just being out with friends. | Things were more challenging at the new school. My balance wasn't very good, and I kept dropping down to all fours. Wearing clothing still a new experience, and it took a while before I found clothes that were comfortable. There were little things, decisions on whether the tail should be covered or exposed. (Most of us feel it's okay to have the tail exposed, though a couple of us use tail sleeves to keep it covered.) I had a lot of catch up to do in the school work, though it came pretty easily. The teachers wanted me to succeed, I think they were proud of their handiwork. I was seen mostly as a person, but I was also an experiment. Rather like if a robot were attending your high school, people would want to see what it was capable of. Socially, well, I got along better with the boys than the girls. I don't know if it was the hunter mindset, or if it were that the social cliques were just too subtle for me. I had girl friends, but most of my friends were male. I didn't date in high school. I was too different. When I was out with friends, it was just being out with friends. | ||
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| I've read a few stories to get a better understanding of wolf perceptions, but none have approached Mark's treatment of Florence. | I've read a few stories to get a better understanding of wolf perceptions, but none have approached Mark's treatment of Florence. | ||
| - | Maybe during the half hour the conversation would turn to how a wolf would perceive hominid society. To what extend they carry the ideas of pack life to various social instutions... For example would they think thoughts like... «My manager is the Alpha of this group, but he's treated as the Omega of the pack of managers, and Beta of his family». Do you dynamically manage overlapping pack structures applying them to social groups? What social groups are least packlike? | + | Maybe during the half hour the conversation would turn to how a wolf would perceive hominid society. To what extend they carry the ideas of pack life to various social instutions… For example would they think thoughts like… «My manager is the Alpha of this group, but he's treated as the Omega of the pack of managers, and Beta of his family». Do you dynamically manage overlapping pack structures applying them to social groups? What social groups are least packlike? |
| - | We'll just have to talk later about my fictional wolf species and their protolanguage. They are based a bit on what I know about Bowman's wolves... I'd also like to hear more about your adolescence, shifting as it were from a normal looking canine to an intelligent bipedal one. | + | We'll just have to talk later about my fictional wolf species and their protolanguage. They are based a bit on what I know about Bowman's wolves… I'd also like to hear more about your adolescence, shifting as it were from a normal looking canine to an intelligent bipedal one. |
| - | Yeah... I fear I would talk with her for months at a time if we could...</note> | + | Yeah… I fear I would talk with her for months at a time if we could…</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
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| One of the smallest human groupings is the band. Essentially a family. Wolves have never gone past this level. Primates and monkeys have gone to the tribe level and even beyond that where food is plentiful. Humans, of course, have gone to villages, nations, worlds. Wolves, beyond the band level, fight. I don't know if that's a something Bowman's wolves will avoid or if that's going to be problems when there are enough of us. Humans as overlapping packs sounds logical, much like overlapping social circles where the "edges" contact and interact with other circles. The largest pack like structure I can think of is Japanese society, where there are no equals, but every person is either superior or inferior in social position to another. The least pack like structures are in the creative endeavors like a think tank, where whoever gets the best idea first runs with it and others are free to follow or not depending on their whim. | One of the smallest human groupings is the band. Essentially a family. Wolves have never gone past this level. Primates and monkeys have gone to the tribe level and even beyond that where food is plentiful. Humans, of course, have gone to villages, nations, worlds. Wolves, beyond the band level, fight. I don't know if that's a something Bowman's wolves will avoid or if that's going to be problems when there are enough of us. Humans as overlapping packs sounds logical, much like overlapping social circles where the "edges" contact and interact with other circles. The largest pack like structure I can think of is Japanese society, where there are no equals, but every person is either superior or inferior in social position to another. The least pack like structures are in the creative endeavors like a think tank, where whoever gets the best idea first runs with it and others are free to follow or not depending on their whim. | ||
| - | Going from four feet to two. It was an... interesting time. I had walked on my hind legs before, it's a common trick that you teach to pets, and it's nice to be able to see things on tops of tables and counters. Also my family was less likely to tell me to "Get down!" if I didn't put my paws on the table when I was looking. My hands got more sensitive as they developed, and along with the changes to my hips, made walking on my hind legs grew easier. I'm glad of the changes to the hip sockets, that's a weak point in canines. One detail that got overlooked is that I needed to use the bathroom more often. My hips did go to the bowl shape to support the internal organs, just the details of those organs resting on the bladder got overlooked. Two legs are more efficient than four, I can run farther as a biped than a quad, though not as fast. Best sequence I've found is to take off on all fours and shift to two legs once I'm up to speed. I started wearing clothing. Velcro is a godsend when you have paws that aren't yet developed as hands. Luckily I could grip even before I started standing on two legs, a cane was very helpful. Mentally, that's when things started to come together for me. Neural pruning in action. Having mental, physical, and social changes happening all at the same time did keep things from getting boring, though on the plus side, I never had to deal with pimples.</note> | + | Going from four feet to two. It was an… interesting time. I had walked on my hind legs before, it's a common trick that you teach to pets, and it's nice to be able to see things on tops of tables and counters. Also my family was less likely to tell me to "Get down!" if I didn't put my paws on the table when I was looking. My hands got more sensitive as they developed, and along with the changes to my hips, made walking on my hind legs grew easier. I'm glad of the changes to the hip sockets, that's a weak point in canines. One detail that got overlooked is that I needed to use the bathroom more often. My hips did go to the bowl shape to support the internal organs, just the details of those organs resting on the bladder got overlooked. Two legs are more efficient than four, I can run farther as a biped than a quad, though not as fast. Best sequence I've found is to take off on all fours and shift to two legs once I'm up to speed. I started wearing clothing. Velcro is a godsend when you have paws that aren't yet developed as hands. Luckily I could grip even before I started standing on two legs, a cane was very helpful. Mentally, that's when things started to come together for me. Neural pruning in action. Having mental, physical, and social changes happening all at the same time did keep things from getting boring, though on the plus side, I never had to deal with pimples.</note> |
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| If, however, a viable population of sentient wolves decided that they liked where they were, this raises other questions. | If, however, a viable population of sentient wolves decided that they liked where they were, this raises other questions. | ||
| - | It's to be assumed that the huge overpopulation of robots on Jean is a temporary phenomenon, and that once completely established as a viable and terraformed world, humans would colonize in vast numbers. Would humans be willing to share society with a large population of anthropomorphized animals? Knowing my species, I can almost hear the prejucicial epithets being invented...</note> | + | It's to be assumed that the huge overpopulation of robots on Jean is a temporary phenomenon, and that once completely established as a viable and terraformed world, humans would colonize in vast numbers. Would humans be willing to share society with a large population of anthropomorphized animals? Knowing my species, I can almost hear the prejucicial epithets being invented…</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
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| >>It's to be assumed that the huge overpopulation of robots on Jean is a temporary phenomenon, and that once completely established as a viable and terraformed world, humans would colonize in vast numbers. Would humans be willing to share society with a large population of anthropomorphized animals? | >>It's to be assumed that the huge overpopulation of robots on Jean is a temporary phenomenon, and that once completely established as a viable and terraformed world, humans would colonize in vast numbers. Would humans be willing to share society with a large population of anthropomorphized animals? | ||
| - | Considering the number of robots on Jean who are opposed to scrapping themselves, asking that question in regards to them is far more germane...meesa don' think the robot population is gonna be shrinking any time soon...ask Florence what she thinks about that!</note> | + | Considering the number of robots on Jean who are opposed to scrapping themselves, asking that question in regards to them is far more germane…meesa don' think the robot population is gonna be shrinking any time soon…ask Florence what she thinks about that!</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
| - | <note tip>I worry about the robots. They have safeguards built into them as well. There's a lot of them and from the organic standpoint, they can be rather frightening. The majority of robots are still in the "puppy dog" phase, only the robots from Factory One have reached the age where neural pruning has occurred. Factory One was never a very productive factory. When the robots from factory four and five start reaching neural pruning age, things will become... interesting.</note> | + | <note tip>I worry about the robots. They have safeguards built into them as well. There's a lot of them and from the organic standpoint, they can be rather frightening. The majority of robots are still in the "puppy dog" phase, only the robots from Factory One have reached the age where neural pruning has occurred. Factory One was never a very productive factory. When the robots from factory four and five start reaching neural pruning age, things will become… interesting.</note> |
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| >>Вопрос от Jeep-Eep: | >>Вопрос от Jeep-Eep: | ||
| - | >>So many questions, so little time... I'd ask her about her history, what her life had been like I mean her early life and all the way through to Uni and her first job. | + | >>So many questions, so little time… I'd ask her about her history, what her life had been like I mean her early life and all the way through to Uni and her first job. |
| That sounds like what I would ask, though if I had time for another subject, perhaps what she thought of science fiction, and it's fans, in the late 20th and early 21st century.</note> | That sounds like what I would ask, though if I had time for another subject, perhaps what she thought of science fiction, and it's fans, in the late 20th and early 21st century.</note> | ||
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| === Вопрос от M. Reynard G.: === | === Вопрос от M. Reynard G.: === | ||
| - | <note>Lets see... | + | <note>Lets see… |
| "Miss Ambrose, being raised by humans, a species that perceives things radically different from you, having worked under an extra-terrestrial, and having observed closely the unique electro-mechanical A.I.s of Jean, what would you say is that characteristic most noble and worthy in any of the above. | "Miss Ambrose, being raised by humans, a species that perceives things radically different from you, having worked under an extra-terrestrial, and having observed closely the unique electro-mechanical A.I.s of Jean, what would you say is that characteristic most noble and worthy in any of the above. | ||
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| >>> 1: Are you seeing anyone right now? | >>> 1: Are you seeing anyone right now? | ||
| >>> 2: What are you doing Saturday night? | >>> 2: What are you doing Saturday night? | ||
| - | >>Looks like someone didn't read the last paragraph of my original post... [Razz] | + | >>Looks like someone didn't read the last paragraph of my original post… [Razz] |
| >> *evil grin* I just can't help it. | >> *evil grin* I just can't help it. | ||
| >> 1: Would you like a date with me? | >> 1: Would you like a date with me? | ||
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| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
| - | <note tip>Sam has been very interesting to work for. His race is much younger than ours. To put it in perspective, Sam's race achieved intelligence and tool use before dinosaurs evolved on his world. The sqids need for external parts for skeletons made them very good at locating and attempting to acquire items they need, or just desire at the moment. I think Sam would do very well with waldos or in a suit of powered armor. Though when I suggested Sam in powered armor to friends, their reaction was... less than enthusiastic. I think I've learned beneficial things from Sam, patience if nothing else. [Smile]</note> | + | <note tip>Sam has been very interesting to work for. His race is much younger than ours. To put it in perspective, Sam's race achieved intelligence and tool use before dinosaurs evolved on his world. The sqids need for external parts for skeletons made them very good at locating and attempting to acquire items they need, or just desire at the moment. I think Sam would do very well with waldos or in a suit of powered armor. Though when I suggested Sam in powered armor to friends, their reaction was… less than enthusiastic. I think I've learned beneficial things from Sam, patience if nothing else. [Smile]</note> |
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| <note>I think I'd rather talk with her about everything BUT what It's like for her being different. | <note>I think I'd rather talk with her about everything BUT what It's like for her being different. | ||
| - | Seriously, just hanging out would be cool. I'm sure everyone ELSE would be asking her things, testing her... I'd rather just play some videogames or something, and the only personal questions I'd be asking would involve which foods might not be very good for her to eat because of her alternative physiology.</note> | + | Seriously, just hanging out would be cool. I'm sure everyone ELSE would be asking her things, testing her… I'd rather just play some videogames or something, and the only personal questions I'd be asking would involve which foods might not be very good for her to eat because of her alternative physiology.</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
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| Hi there, Florence! | Hi there, Florence! | ||
| - | So, uhm... If I may ask you... What scents and foods do you relish? | + | So, uhm… If I may ask you… What scents and foods do you relish? |
| Like: What do you enjoy smelling and what's your favourite foods?</note> | Like: What do you enjoy smelling and what's your favourite foods?</note> | ||
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| <note tip>Scents. That's a hard to describe, easy to give examples. The scent of a forest after a thunderstorm, when all of the old scents are tamped down and you get such a feeling of newness as the smells rise back into the air. The smell of a dusty wooden room as the sunlight hits it and frees the smells from where they lay. Stockyards. Deer in the snow. There's as many beautiful smells as there are beautiful sights. | <note tip>Scents. That's a hard to describe, easy to give examples. The scent of a forest after a thunderstorm, when all of the old scents are tamped down and you get such a feeling of newness as the smells rise back into the air. The smell of a dusty wooden room as the sunlight hits it and frees the smells from where they lay. Stockyards. Deer in the snow. There's as many beautiful smells as there are beautiful sights. | ||
| - | Foods. Deer liver is my favorite, though hard to get. Liver of any type comes after that. Kidneys. Lungs aren't bad either. I like rice, especially when flavored with something else such as shrimp. I like ice cream (plain vanilla), but I have to be careful to only have small amounts because of... side effects.</note> | + | Foods. Deer liver is my favorite, though hard to get. Liver of any type comes after that. Kidneys. Lungs aren't bad either. I like rice, especially when flavored with something else such as shrimp. I like ice cream (plain vanilla), but I have to be careful to only have small amounts because of… side effects.</note> |
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| === Вопрос от SeaGROL: === | === Вопрос от SeaGROL: === | ||
| - | <note>Hrm... *thinks* Without repeating the previous questions, here's mine. | + | <note>Hrm… *thinks* Without repeating the previous questions, here's mine. |
| Normal Theobromi(n/d)e levels found in chocolate and coffee is poisonous to your endocrinology, yet low level theobromi(d/n)e types of each is apparently available. But which chocolate/coffee do you prefer the taste of? The 'real' stuff or the low Theobrmi(n/d)e kind? | Normal Theobromi(n/d)e levels found in chocolate and coffee is poisonous to your endocrinology, yet low level theobromi(d/n)e types of each is apparently available. But which chocolate/coffee do you prefer the taste of? The 'real' stuff or the low Theobrmi(n/d)e kind? | ||
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| === Вопрос от Peter da Silva: === | === Вопрос от Peter da Silva: === | ||
| - | <note>Florence... given his simple biochemistry, why don't the bacteria on Jean treat Sam like a walking petri dish?</note> | + | <note>Florence… given his simple biochemistry, why don't the bacteria on Jean treat Sam like a walking petri dish?</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||
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| === Вопрос от Somber Requiem: === | === Вопрос от Somber Requiem: === | ||
| - | <note>All right Miss Ambrose... since no one else has asked... | + | <note>All right Miss Ambrose… since no one else has asked… |
| How does sex work with you? Do you have sexual experience with humans, perhaps from back in college? Do you or have you gone into heat? What was it like? Do you find humans sexually attractive? What about canines or lupines? Or are you more sexually interested in the social advantages of a mate rather than the genetic advantages? Do you see yourself ever getting married? Do you masturbate, and if so how much? Do you ever feel a sexual itch to breed outside periods of fertility? | How does sex work with you? Do you have sexual experience with humans, perhaps from back in college? Do you or have you gone into heat? What was it like? Do you find humans sexually attractive? What about canines or lupines? Or are you more sexually interested in the social advantages of a mate rather than the genetic advantages? Do you see yourself ever getting married? Do you masturbate, and if so how much? Do you ever feel a sexual itch to breed outside periods of fertility? | ||
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| <note>*still hopes for an answer* [Wink] | <note>*still hopes for an answer* [Wink] | ||
| - | Uhm... Anyway. Say, just how fast can you get, running? What was your average time for the 100m sprint in school?</note> | + | Uhm… Anyway. Say, just how fast can you get, running? What was your average time for the 100m sprint in school?</note> |
| === Ответ Флоренс: === | === Ответ Флоренс: === | ||